{"id":2007,"date":"2011-01-22T16:21:09","date_gmt":"2011-01-22T21:21:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nedsnotebook.com\/?p=2007"},"modified":"2011-01-22T16:21:09","modified_gmt":"2011-01-22T21:21:09","slug":"logical","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nedsnotebook.com\/wp\/2011\/01\/22\/logical\/","title":{"rendered":"Logical"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Got a call today from a man I know, who has gone back to drinking again. A man, who found it difficult to listen. He had his own ideas, even though he attended meetings on a fairly regular basis. I never really knew what he heard and digested from the meetings. But from what he said, he always seemed to think he was being logical.<\/p>\n<p>Now there&#8217;s a word, &#8220;logical&#8221;, which gave me a few problems, when I came in. I told him what my sponsor told me: you don&#8217;t know that you don&#8217;t know, you only think you know.<\/p>\n<p>Was I logical, when I was drinking? Absolutely not. Alcohol was doing my thinking for me. Every time I thought I was thinking clearly, my thought would turn to that next drink.<\/p>\n<p>When I came in, I thought I was thinking logically. But that&#8217;s when my sponsor told me to stop thinking. An easy thing to say to a new man, but a very difficult task. How do we manage to stop thinking. That mental machine is going on all the time.<\/p>\n<p>The problem was not to stop thinking, but what I was thinking about. I was thinking with an alcoholically drenched mind. That&#8217;s when my sponsor started me reading the BB. He actually was giving me something to think about. The beginning of changing my mind and what I was thinking.<\/p>\n<p>Over the years, I have come to the conclusion that &#8220;logic&#8221; goes only so far. If I look at the evidence around me of all these people, who are sober, then it&#8217;s logical to think that this program works. Working the Steps into my life did work.<\/p>\n<p>But logic stops at some point. It doesn&#8217;t work, when it comes to the spiritual life. If I&#8217;m living a spiritual life, or trying to, what happens to me and all the others in this program begins to take on a whole new way of thinking.<\/p>\n<p>Hope, faith, humility, and love don&#8217;t fall into the realm of logic. It may be logical to follow the guidelines of what works in staying sober, but that&#8217;s about as far as it goes. I can meditate on the spiritual life and grasp what I can, but it&#8217;s beyond me. It&#8217;s a mystery. Problems can be solved, but not mysteries. Like so many old timers have told me, I know it works, but I don&#8217;t know why it works.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s where this man is at the beginning. The man, who called me. All I could tell him was what I&#8217;ve had to tell so many before. Don&#8217;t take a drink, get to a meeting, and talk to the sober people there&#8230;and listen. Of course, and I thought about this when I was talking to him, his ears are still drunk.<\/p>\n<p>But I did tell him to pray. To ask for help from the God of his understanding. That&#8217;s what I had to do, when I was where he is. It worked for me and I can only hope it will work for him. I can&#8217;t do for him, what he has to do for himself. I can&#8217;t stop drinking for him and I can&#8217;t work this program for him. I can only hope that he can and will.<\/p>\n<p>Makes me grateful to my higher power that I&#8217;m sober and not drinking.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Got a call today from a man I know, who has gone back to drinking again. A man, who found it difficult to listen. He had his own ideas, even though he attended meetings on a fairly regular basis. I never really knew what he heard and digested from the meetings. 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